{"id":116918,"date":"2023-06-14T11:46:46","date_gmt":"2023-06-14T16:46:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/?p=116918"},"modified":"2025-04-17T13:46:44","modified_gmt":"2025-04-17T18:46:44","slug":"ep-5-wellness-self-care","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/not-alone-pod\/ep-5-wellness-self-care\/","title":{"rendered":"Ep. 5: Wellness &#038; Self-Care"},"content":{"rendered":"<section class=\"clearfix\"><div id=\"buzzsprout-player-12922968\"><\/div>\n<p><script src=\"https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/2194119\/12922968-5-mental-wellness-self-care.js?container_id=buzzsprout-player-12922968&#038;player=small\" type=\"text\/javascript\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<h4><strong>Podcast Host: Tammi Mac\u00a0<\/strong><\/h4>\n<h4><strong>Guest: Dr. Joi K. Madison<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\"> <img decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-116966 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Tammi-Mac-300x300.png\" alt=\"Headshot of Tammi Mac\" width=\"155\" height=\"155\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Tammi-Mac-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Tammi-Mac-1024x1024.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Tammi-Mac-100x100.png 100w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Tammi-Mac-770x770.png 770w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Tammi-Mac-500x500.png 500w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Tammi-Mac-293x293.png 293w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Tammi-Mac-368x368.png 368w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Tammi-Mac-465x465.png 465w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Tammi-Mac-660x660.png 660w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Tammi-Mac-975x975.png 975w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Tammi-Mac-845x845.png 845w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Tammi-Mac.png 1080w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 155px) 100vw, 155px\" \/><strong><span class=\"TextRun SCXW248652438 BCX0\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW248652438 BCX0\">Tammi Mac &#8211;<\/span><\/span><\/strong><em><span class=\"TextRun SCXW248652438 BCX0\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW248652438 BCX0\"> The 3 time NAACP award winning, <strong>Tammi Mac <\/strong>was hand-picked by the legendary <strong>Stevie Wonder <\/strong>to host the number one afternoon radio show, <a href=\"https:\/\/kjlhradio.com\/\"><strong>\u201cThe Tammi Mac Show\u201d <\/strong><\/a>from 3-7pm daily on his Los Angeles owned <a href=\"https:\/\/kjlhradio.com\/\"><strong>102.3 KJLH<\/strong><\/a>. Tammi Mac is voted best radio personality in Los Angeles by the <strong>Los Angeles Times<\/strong>. Her one woman show, Bag Lady has garnered best writer, best producer and best one person show and the spin-off webseries Bag Lady is award winning too. Her radio career has extended to television with her talk show, <a href=\"https:\/\/foxsoul.tv\/shows\/the-tammi-mac-late-show\/\"><strong>The Business of Being Black with Tammi Mac <\/strong><\/a>on the digital network Fox Soul, daily.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-117032 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Joi-300x300.png\" alt=\"Headshot of Dr. Joi Madison\" width=\"155\" height=\"155\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Joi-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Joi-1024x1024.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Joi-100x100.png 100w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Joi-770x770.png 770w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Joi-500x500.png 500w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Joi-293x293.png 293w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Joi-368x368.png 368w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Joi-465x465.png 465w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Joi-660x660.png 660w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Joi-975x975.png 975w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Joi-845x845.png 845w, https:\/\/www.thechicagoschool.edu\/insight\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Joi.png 1080w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 155px) 100vw, 155px\" \/>Joi K. Madison, Psy.D.<\/strong> &#8211; Dr. <span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW251777015 BCX0\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.joikmadison.com\/welcome\">Joi Madison<\/a> is a former competitive swimmer<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW251777015 BCX0\"> who combin<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW251777015 BCX0\">ed<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW251777015 BCX0\"> her affinity for all things sports<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW251777015 BCX0\"> and<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW251777015 BCX0\"> physical activity with her commitment to serving the whole person &#8211; mind, body and spirit. <\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW251777015 BCX0\">J<\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW251777015 BCX0\">oi intends to create unique, relevant and, most importantly, effective methods for all of us to train, heal and evolve in ways that move us closer to creating the grandest version of the greatest vision we have for our lives.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4>Subscribe to podcast\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4x8s6Ew4PjwuEoG4soq5yq?si=873cc85950c149be\">here.<\/a><\/h4>\n<h4>Full Episode Transcript<\/h4>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Hello and welcome to our podcast. It&#8217;s the podcast that lets you know, you are not alone. Your guide to mental wellness. I&#8217;m your host, Tammi Mac. This podcast is a production of The Chicago School, which has been training and educating multi culturally competent mental healthcare professionals for over 50 years. Yes, our program is committed to educating our community about mental health and wellness, and normalizing conversations about our mental health. Our program will explore mental health and wellness issues that impact us, as well as explore ways that we can improve our wellness. Now, every week, I will be joined by mental and behavioral health experts, who will share their experience and expertise to help us on our journey to good health and satisfying lives. Today we want to focus on ways to stay mentally and emotionally healthy, our wellness.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Joining us is marriage and family therapist, Dr. Joi Madison. an adjunct professor at The Chicago School, and also a former competitive swimmer and fitness expert. Dr. Madison is an international speaker, coach, facilitator who specializes in trauma informed emotional intelligence, to enhance relational health and improve our overall quality of life. And let&#8217;s face it, we all want our life to be improved. So let&#8217;s do this.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Her coaching, consulting and curriculum design styles take an evidence-based approach while also centering cultural humility and social relevance. Now you know I got to find out what that&#8217;s all about. Dr. Joy invites us to connect more deeply with ourselves, more authentically with ourselves, and more readily with the resources that invite you to live your most fulfilled life. Please welcome, Dr. Joy. Hey, Dr. Joy.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">How are you?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Now I got to get to the good part. I got to get to the good part. You got to me using all these big words and half of us, only half of us, don&#8217;t know what they mean. Cultural humility and social relevance, please talk about that.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Yeah, so wellness does not happen in a vacuum. We all live in communities. We live amongst people, we have families, we have work, school, all these places where we interact with other people. And so part of our wellness, our understanding of wellness, our experience of wellness has to happen in the context of the communities in which we live. So cultural relevance is about what are my cultural values? What are the things that matter to me that are related to where I come from and the experiences that I have? And then social relevance is like what&#8217;s going on in the world around me at the moment? And am I really assessing my wellness with those things in mind?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">What is something that will be culturally valuable to someone? What&#8217;s an example of that?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Thinking about the Black community, for instance, when we think about wellness, oftentimes there&#8217;s a big conversation about self-care right now. And a lot of that is geared towards sort of the individual, how you care for yourself. Which that makes sense, yes, but a lot of the times, the way that we&#8217;re told to care for ourselves or the pictures that we&#8217;re seeing of what self-care looks like, doesn&#8217;t include things that are a part of our values. We tend to be a more collectivist culture. We tend to be more communal. We like to be together. We like to go to a good cookout, these kinds of things. And so when we think about going to a quiet spa day such and such, which yes, that works sometimes, but that&#8217;s not always the thing that&#8217;s our jam.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Oh my goodness. Ding ding ding. Ding ding ding. Because you&#8217;re right. I get massage gift certificates all the time, and I would rather go to a barbecue.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joy Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Listen, we want to be with our people. And I&#8217;m not saying that those things don&#8217;t have their place, but again, going back to this conversation or this question about cultural relevance, it&#8217;s like, what&#8217;s the thing that matters to me? Self-care is not just caring for myself. It&#8217;s me defining what that is for me.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Yeah, yeah. So me doing the cha cha slide at the barbecue-<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joy Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Listen.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">&#8230;is an example of self-care.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joy Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Absolutely.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Who would&#8217;ve thunk it?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joy Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Absolutely. Absolutely.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Because it makes you feel good. It makes you feel a part of something greater than yourself. Yeah, it&#8217;s community. Yeah, I get it. Cultural humility. We learned already in the first 30 seconds, Dr. Joy is teaching up in here. So you seem to be actively exploring the mind body connection.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joy Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Absolutely.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">So with your background as an athlete, please tell me how you got started on your journey to wellness.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joy Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">So that&#8217;s been a lifelong thing. It&#8217;s a family value. So we have cultural values and there&#8217;s family values. My mom was always into a very active since I&#8217;m a child, but thinking about the mind body connection specifically, I always think it&#8217;s hilarious when we&#8217;re like, health and then mental health as if they&#8217;re separate. My brain is in my body and it&#8217;s all part of the same thing. So it&#8217;s really about thinking for me, that holistic approach, that mind body connection is about understanding how our thoughts, our emotions, our sensations show up in our bodies.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">And then making sure that as we approach the things or practices around wellness, that we&#8217;re addressing all of those things and understanding the interconnectivity in those areas. So that we are treating our whole selves, not like the fragmented versions of us that I think the world is trying to tell us we&#8217;re supposed to be.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Exactly. And you as an athlete, your body obviously has to be in shape, but then you have to have the mindset-<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Sure.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">&#8230;that says, &#8220;I want to work out. I want to win. I want it.&#8221; So I get that too.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Sure.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">I get how it&#8217;s connected too. I remember in grad school, they made a point of telling us that our body is one thing. It is not a whole bunch of different parts. It is a whole. And how you move and how you feel physically affects how you perform. And your mental&#8230; It&#8217;s connected to the character that you create. It&#8217;s connected to your own personal individual feelings, but it has everything to do with you physically too.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Absolutely.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">So I&#8217;m feeling that too. Y&#8217;all learning yet? Okay. So wellness sounds like it&#8217;s part of the mind body connection that we talked about before, so explain the connection.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Between mind and body?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Yeah.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">So, the way that I approach it, thinking about, for instance, the word itself, disease. It is dis-ease. When we have unaddressed emotional trauma, when we have negative thought cycles, that influences how we feel and we don&#8217;t deal with it, it shows up in our bodies. And we have language for it. We say things like a knot in my stomach or a lump in my throat, or a pain in the neck. Or even we talk about being heartbroken. So we have language that expresses this idea that our bodies hold the stories of our emotional selves. We understand that we have language for it, but I don&#8217;t think that we are consciously making the connection in terms of how we address that relationship between the mind and body.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">So it&#8217;s really about understanding when I think and feel this way, when we&#8217;re not feeling well and we&#8217;re like, &#8220;Oh, oh.&#8221; And you start to feel helpless. All of those things, it&#8217;s because my body&#8217;s not feeling well, and then that&#8217;s influencing how I think about myself and then how I behave. And then, so all those things are influenced.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">I don&#8217;t mean to cut you off, but you gave me a thought here, and I want to know this. So which comes first, the chicken or the egg? Does the body react to the mind, or does the mind react to the body? What becomes diseased first?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">I think it can go either way. The idea here is that it&#8217;s sort of this exchange, this relationship, which like me and you, we&#8217;re having, you&#8217;re talking then I&#8217;m talking. And we&#8217;re both just right, so it&#8217;s a relationship where they&#8217;re both influencing each other.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">It&#8217;s a connection.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Yes. Yes.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Got it. It&#8217;s a connection. So one can never work without the other.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Absolutely. They&#8217;re not separate.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">And one will always influence the other.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Exactly.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Whichever way it goes.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joy Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Exactly. Exactly.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">So I can make my body physically sick if I think about it.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">You can.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">And if I&#8217;m physically sick, I can make myself well, if I think about it.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joy Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">You can. Because what it tends to do, is it&#8217;s not just the thinking. The thinking leads to behaviors. So if I think a certain thing and I focus on a particular thing, and that&#8217;s all I see in terms of my options and choices, then it&#8217;s going to lead to me continuing to create the same outcome. But if I start to think differently, I see a new choice-<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Girl, you got me praise dancing. Because everybody&#8230; No. There are people who are like, your mind can&#8217;t change whatever you have.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Sure.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">But you just made it very clear when you said it&#8217;s not that your mind changes it. It&#8217;s that your mind changes the way you react and it changes your behavior.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">It changes what you perceive. It changes the opportunities that you see for change.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">So if I&#8217;m thinking, let&#8217;s just get in my business.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Okay. Get into it.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">If I&#8217;m thinking I&#8217;m skinny. It&#8217;s not that thinking I&#8217;m skinny will make me skinny. It&#8217;s the things that I think about when it comes to being skinny, that will lead me in that direction.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">So what I believe about who I am will inform what I choose. And so if I believe I&#8217;m healthy, then I&#8217;m going to choose healthy foods, healthy activities. And eventually the body will reflect that because I am making choices behaviorally that reflect what I believe internally about who I am.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Yeah. Y&#8217;all get that. It&#8217;s not the mind that changes the actual thing. It&#8217;s the mind that changes the behavior-<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Sure.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">&#8230;of how you get the thing. Girl, you&#8217;re taking me to church today, I&#8217;m sorry. Okay, we&#8217;ve talked a little bit about self-care, but let&#8217;s dig a little bit deeper into it.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Sure.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">What is self-care and why is it important?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Yeah. So, self-care is exactly that. It is caring for yourself. And the question of why it&#8217;s important, and I&#8217;ll contextualize this specifically for this conversation around Black people and wellness. It&#8217;s important because it&#8217;s also a part of not just our wellness practice, but also our liberation practice.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Oh, oh. I don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re saying. Our liberation.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">It is. It&#8217;s a part of our liberation process.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">How so?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Recognizing that historically, Black bodies have been used for labor, and then we internalize that that is our only worth. We don&#8217;t know, for many people, wellness is just the absence of illness. If I ain&#8217;t sick, I&#8217;m good. As long as I can get up and go and do the thing, I&#8217;m good. And that&#8217;s the thing. Our worth is often tied to our capacity to be productive. What can I do? And so selfcare is about taking a moment to do some inventory around, not about what can I do for others? What do I need to be well, how can I care for me? If that&#8217;s going to do the wobble at the barbecue, then that&#8217;s what that is. So it&#8217;s about liberating ourselves from the idea that we&#8217;re only worth, what we can do for work.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">This is&#8230; I&#8217;m trying to put it into layman&#8217;s term. I went to a panel and a white man was talking about his independent film. And he was saying how he went to these different investors and he asked for $5 million. The Black people in the room were like, &#8220;What? You ask for $5 million?&#8221; So that&#8217;s a part of that liberation that you&#8217;re talking about. We would never ask for $5 million because of our history, because of the way that we&#8217;ve been brought up, to not believe that we&#8217;re even worth that much. That&#8217;s crazy.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">The audacity. The audacity.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">That&#8217;s what I was thinking when I heard. I said, &#8220;You went to somebody else for $5 million?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">That was your starting point? You got to work your way up.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">That&#8217;s where you started? Okay, hold on.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Taking notes, exactly.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">I only asked for $20.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Exactly. And was shaking when I went to ask.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Okay, just make it 19,99 and we&#8217;ll call it even. So does wellness look differently in the Black community than it might look in other communities?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">I think, yeah. And I think for the reason that we were just speaking about that, it is very much attached to our liberation. And so a lot of times when we think about wellness, particularly around self-care, the conversation that&#8217;s happening now is that it makes it like a luxury. You have to go to the spa.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Yes, it does.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">And go on the vacation. And you go to the things.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">You have to spend all this money, yes.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joy Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">And so for us, for many of us, that&#8217;s not accessible. And so it may look different, not just because of the accessibility piece, but also, again, going back to the values piece. One practice that I&#8217;m really working on just personally is the difference between being tired and being drained. I&#8217;m tired. I need to rest. I&#8217;m drained. I need to recharge. And what I do to recharge. Maybe connecting with people. Maybe for me, going out to surf, spending time in nature, right. Going to do a thing that feels vigorous or I&#8217;m having to output a lot.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Or that calms me down.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">But that&#8217;s the way I recharge because that&#8217;s the thing that fills my battery is being with my people.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">What do you do to recharge? What do you do when you&#8217;re drained? I&#8217;m-<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joy Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Personal?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Yes, personally.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Anything creative-<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Because you&#8217;re an athlete, you&#8217;re a swimmer. I want to know what you do. Because I want to do what you do.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">I surf. I surf. So I love to surf.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">You&#8217;re saying surf like surfboard.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joy Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Yeah, surfboard.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Okay, so you would&#8217;ve asked for that $5 million too? I mean, because I don&#8217;t know [inaudible 00:13:59]-<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">So today, Joy would&#8217;ve asked for the $5 million. I don&#8217;t know, a couple years ago I probably would&#8217;ve been, I don&#8217;t know. But today Joy is, let me get that five. But I surf, I create. I like to just create for the sake of creating, not for a particular reason or a person or to sell it or to do anything, but just to get it out. I have an idea and I want to see what it looks like outside of my head. So I might color, I might write, I might dance. Anything creative in that manner. I also like to just laugh a little bit. Just laugh.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">I love laughing.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Yeah. My name is Joi. How can I not? Come on.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">How can you not be joyful?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Exactly.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">How could you not?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Exactly.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">So what are some things that I can do to improve my family&#8217;s or my own wellness? Because should a person be concerned with their family&#8217;s wellness as well?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Absolutely. And when you say concerned with, I think that, again, going back to our more sort of tribal communal tendency, usually our family&#8217;s wellness is a part of our wellness. I&#8217;m good, you good, we good. We all we got sometimes. So there&#8217;s that. But the question of what can I do is always interesting to me. Because it goes back to what I was saying earlier, which is sometimes for us, the question is what can we not do? What can I say no to? How can I slow down and do less right? As a way to tend to my wellness? Because we tend to be busy all the time doing all the things.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">So as a busy person myself, yes. Let me ask you this. Can being busy be a part of wellness?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">That&#8217;s interesting. It could. Now how much time we get? It could. It could. What I would invite people to do is create a practice where you are regularly checking in with yourself. And for me, my understanding of wellness, is alignment. When you feel emotionally, spiritually, mentally, physically, relationally, even environmentally aligned. And whatever is helping in supporting that process, that then to me, could be a wellness practice.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">How do we know-<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joy Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">If it&#8217;s not, then&#8230;<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">How do we know whether we&#8217;re aligned or not?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joy Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Oh, we feel it. You know how you feel when something is just off and you can&#8217;t really know what it is or you can&#8217;t&#8230; But you know and this is part of wellness. Wellness is reconnecting to our intuitive selves. It&#8217;s remembering, we talk a lot about who we&#8217;re becoming. I like to think about it as remembering who we&#8217;ve always been. And peeling back all of the fears and expectations and everybody else, what we should have done, or peeling back some of that and being still and connecting to the truth of what we know, what we feel intuitively. And then making it a priority to make that the thing that&#8217;s our new default, not the default setting of always on the go. Can I change my default setting to what it feels like to feel grounded, to feel safe in my body, to feel like I have agency in my environment? When I can feel that, that to me is a sign of wellness.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">I love it. On that note, you are not alone. How about that? Thank you, Dr. Joy.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Thank you.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">I could have done a whole nother 30 with you, sis.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Thank you so much.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">My goodness. But then you&#8217;d had the invoice me.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">That&#8217;s all right.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">I&#8217;ll be in here&#8230;<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Dr. Joi Madison:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">It&#8217;ll be 5 million.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">Tammi Mac:<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">I love it. You are not alone. It&#8217;s your guide to mental wellness. I am your host, Tammi Mac. Goodbye, everybody.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559738&quot;:80}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mental Health Resources<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/helpguide.org\/\">HelpGuide<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/clubofhearts.teachable.com\/\">Club of Hearts<\/a><\/p>\n<\/section>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Podcast Host: Tammi Mac\u00a0 Guest: Dr. Joi K. Madison Tammi Mac &#8211; The 3 time NAACP award winning, Tammi Mac was hand-picked by the legendary Stevie Wonder to host the number one afternoon radio show, \u201cThe Tammi Mac Show\u201d from 3-7pm daily on his Los Angeles owned 102.3 KJLH. Tammi Mac is voted best radio personality in Los Angeles by the Los Angeles Times. 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